About Maple Sandbox


Blaze, in fighting form

We (Blaze and Outraged Canadian) connected through another website after we both were stunned and dismayed to discover that, after almost 40 years as Canadian citizens, the United States might still consider us US citizens or “US persons” for tax purposes.

Isaac Brock Society literally saved our sanity and gave us strength and strategies for saving ourselves and others.  Eventually, as both we and Brock changed, we decided it was time to Blaze a new Outraged Canadian trail.

Outraged Canadian’s stand-in

We invite others to play with us in a spirit of fun, friendship, sharing and enthusiasm as we learn, grow and share together.  While we offer a calm and casual approach, we know the battle against the IRS is a serious one that has turned lives upside down.  So, we are determined to stand up to bullies, wherever they come from.

We know how alarming, distressing and worrying issues of dealing with IRS from afar can be.   At Maple Sandbox, we aim to offer a dwelling for rest and relaxation in an atmosphere of sharing, exploring, and learning that will help people resist the intrusion of the IRS into their honest, law-abiding tax-paying lives.

We may be conscientious objectors to the fight, but we do not shy away from the conflict. We plan to arm ourselves and others with resources, respect and advocacy against the attempted intrusion of IRS into the lives of honest, law-abiding tax paying people.

Canadians and Americans fight wars differently.  Likewise, Maple Sandbox will conduct this dispute to reflect Canada’s long and esteemed history of fighting for freedom, while also promoting global peacemaking and international development.

We are allies with Isaac Brock Society and others around the world.  As strong trading partners, many of our toys were imported from Brock.  We hope to export buckets of sand to Brock.  Maple Sandbox and Brock will share building blocks as we construct and expand our treasure chests.

Brock soldiers are welcome to relax in our playground.   Likewise, we expect some Sandboxers may also be Brock troopers.

Maple Sandbox believes learning and growing occurs through open, honest exchange of thoughts, ideas and communications.  We cherish freedom of speech and freedom of expression as fundamental Canadian values.  At the same time, neither freedom is absolute– nor should they be in a civilized world.  So, we will follow Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which provides that “reasonable limits” may be placed on individual rights in a free and democratic society.

Come play and fight with us as we Blaze a new Outraged Canadian Trail.


Blaze, raring to go!



66 thoughts on “About Maple Sandbox

  1. D. Koppel

    Having missed finding out about an information session offered in Comox, October 2017, I am wondering whether any other sessions will be offered in Canada in 2018 for non-resident US dual citizens trying to comply with US tax bureaucracy? Willing to travel across the country to get help! Overwhelmed by where to start.

    1. nobledreamer-Tricia

      @D. Koppel

      Sorry to hear you were unaware of the session and thank you for asking about the meetings.

      Other than London UK for March 7, no specific dates/places have been chosen.

      In the meantime, there is a lot of information available here and at isaacbrocksociety.ca

      If you like, I can steer you toward what might help if you give me some idea of your situation. If you don’t want it public, feel free to send me an email at nobledreamer16 at gmail dot com


    can anyone tell me if they are able to cross US border by car with Cdn passport that says born in USA? Are they strict about it? Or have things changed since Trump in office? i read some are warned.. but are people being denied entrance? I became Cdn citizen 1974.

    1. nobledreamer-Tricia


      I don’t think I have heard more than one or two being denied entry and if memory serves, there were additional aspects, not just having a US birthplace on CDN passport. Of course, the great irony here is if they really believe you are a US citizen they CANNOT deny entry. I was told that by the vice-consul when I renounced my citizenship. Lots of people report being warned.

      I am presuming you do not have a CLN?

    1. Lynne Swanson

      Thanks EmBee.

      You are correct.  I refuse to go to a U.S. Consulate.  I do have a copy of my 1973 renunciation oath from my Canadian citizenship file  

      I have no idea why the author said I renounced because of FATCA. SHE does not know me and did not contact me.

      I would love to correct her but the only contact info is on Twitter and I don’t want to get into it there.

    2. EmBee

      @ Lynne
      Maybe she extrapolated incorrectly from the Forbes article she cites which called you a “former U.S. citizen” which you are, just not one with a CLN. I wouldn’t go into a U.S. Consulate either. It was bad enough pacing on the outside waiting for my husband to emerge after his relinquishment interview. We’re all all-Canadian — me by birth, he by CLN and you by solemn oath.

    3. Lynne Swanson

      I tweeted her that there was incorrect info.  She gave me her e-mail and I sent her a message with the correct information.

  3. WhiteKat

    @Embee regarding your comment from IsaacBrockSociety: “It’s impossible for me to focus on FATCA right now. The Trump betrayal on Syria (manipulated by apparatchiks of the deep state apparatus hellbent on starting WW3) looms far larger in my mind and heart. It’s a pathetic, probably doomed world we live in, given all that has been said and done in the past 24 hours. Perhaps after some inevitable clarifying, a remnant of hope will return but madness certainly prevails at the moment. Sorry to stray off-topic. I’m over and out for awhile.”

    Thanks for the reality check. Sure puts FATCA, amongst other issues, into perspective.

    As for going “over and out for awhile”, I highly recommend it. My excommunication from the Isaac Brock Society, though initially causing despair, has actually been quite positive. Dialoguing with Wag over at the Hill (thanks for your thumbs up) and seeing some of my comments disappear, had me in a state of anger I’ve not been in for some time. Stepping away from the keyboard, and the constant stream of bad news we find ourselves subjected to in our digital world, not to mention the endless FATCA conversations and the ‘Wags’, can only be good for one’s mental health . Spring is here. Maybe get outside and take a walk. That is what Elsie the dog and I are going to do right now. Take care Embee, ghost of WhiteKat.

    1. EmBee

      I’m still trying to sort out the latest tangle in the world’s relentless race to chaos. It’s mind boggling how someone can do a 180 degree turn in almost a matter of hours. The truth is out there but just as you approach it someone always seems to dump a big stinking pile of deception over top of it. Don’t know why it is I keep trying.

      About the “Wag” … do you ever wonder if the pro-FATCA faction have a set-up like the Israeli government’s paid online propagandists? The compliance condors, in particular, want to keep milking the FATCA cow. Then again, there really are people out there who are as dense as him/her.

      I did a double walk yesterday in mostly sunshine but today looked more like Christmas than Easter time. (It’s melting fast though.) I know you and Elsie enjoyed the day … dogs have a way of making that happen.

    2. WhiteKat

      @Embee, re: your comment on truth and Wags.

      When non-sympathizers of the FATCA witch hunt suggest we are “whiners” who are merely “inconvenienced”, as a Canadian living in Canada, a part of me sometimes feels like I agree. As nononymous and others often suggest at IBS, as long as we don’t stand up and say “here I am” to our Canadian financial institutions, so far at least, we don’t appear to have a lot to fear. But that’s false assurance. What scares me the most is not FATCA itself, but what it represents. The suppression of truth. The hidden agendas. The disrespect for human rights. The short-term thinking that has so quickly gotten humanity to the point of near self annihilation. Mother Nature screwed up big time when we came along. So smart with our big brains, yet so stupid. Perhaps we’re overdue for a reset. 🙁 Time for another walk with Elsie the Dog.

  4. WhiteKat

    I don’t know where to put this comment. And I don’t know if anyone cares, but I need to vent. Been trying to forget all this FATCA BS, and regret having gotten myself all worked out commenting at a Hill article today. It is SO FRUSTRATING to put my all into truthful comments and then to see them disappear. Many of my comments are still there, but the really good ones are gone. Reminder to self: live own life and don’t care about truth.

  5. Sheila

    My dual US-Canadian adult children are investigating renouncing US citizenship. They never had a US passport as they always travelled on their Can one. However the paperwork requires the US passport be turned in. Is their Consular Report of Birth Abroad sufficient, or must they get a US passport only to surrender it? It’s been impossible to find an answer to this……

    1. DoD

      Answered on the IBS site. Expired passports are shown to the vice-consul and returned to the owner. No need to get a new one. No need for the children to get one. Read the e-mail from CanadaCLNEnquiries again

  6. WhiteKat

    Lynne, Just want you to know how much I appreciate the Sandbox. After being banned from the Isaac Brock Society, I found myself in a very deep, dark place. Not sure if I would have crawled out without the Sandbox. Thank you.

  7. Peter Julian

    Please note that, on March 22, NDP House Leader Peter Julian asked the Minister of Revenue during Question Period about the new Liberal government lack of action on protecting the privacy rights of Canadians with respect to the FATCA issue.

    Here is a transcript of Peter’s question with a link to the video clip:

    1. Lynne Swanson

      Thank you Peter Julian.  I will give this its own thread.

      I hope you will continue to post updates here abd will continue to hold the Fibbing Libs to account for their hypopcrisy.

  8. Susab

    I’m just discovering that my partner may be an “accidental American” due to being born in the US as the town his Canadian parents lived in used the hospital “across the line” back in the ’50’s. All births in from this little town where done at this hospital at that time so I imagine there are quite a few individuals like him. He has a Canadian birth certificate (not a US issued one) that list the Canadian town as his place of birth. So, do we need to worry? Would love someones thoughts on this. Thanks.

    1. Duke of Devon

      Susan: Unless there is more you need not worry. His birth certificate and presumably his passport say ‘made in Canada’ What more can you ask for?

    2. Lynne Swanson

      @Susab If the birth certificate is Canadian and gives a Canadian town as his place of birth, I agree with Duke.  There is nothing to indicate he was born in the U.S.  

      If your partner’s bank ever asks where he was born, he should reply with the town and province on the birth certificate.

      if, however, your partner has ever done anything to attempt to claim U.S. citizenship from his cross-border birth, that changes things.

  9. Lynne Swanson

    @Dave We and our allies at Isaac Brock Society are trying to fight back. Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty is fighting in Canadian courts.

    You are right. We need everyone in this battle, especially in an election year. Unfortunately, all political parties are silent on FATCA now.

    There was one small protest in Ottawa a couple of years ago in front of the Parliament building. We need more to make an impact.

    “Where have all the young men gone? Long time passing. Where have all the young men gone? Long time ago.”

    We need to find more of those draft dodgers and get them in this fight. Does anyone know how to do that?

  10. Dave

    I am an outraged Canadian that our government would subordinate its’ sovereignty to a foreign government. Whatever happened to the Canada I know when the Pearson government protected US draft dodgers? How can we rally US citizens by birth who made (and make) Canada their home to protest our discontent on the steps of Parliament, especially now when we have a federal election looming on the horizon? .


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