Elves: Make Blaze’s Christmas wish come true. Help Santa fill Ginny and Gwen’s stockings!
On August 11, 2014, Constitutional Litigator Joseph Arvay filed a FATCA IGA lawsuit in Canada Federal Court on behalf of Plaintiffs Ginny and Gwen, the Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty (en français), and all peoples worldwide. Read Alliance’s Claims and comment on our Alliance blog.
We now need $1250/day up to February 1, 2015.
We need $51,421 MORE IN 41 DAYS for the February 1 2015 payment for Ginny and Gwen’s Canadian FATCA IGA lawsuit.
Since June 1, 2014 you raised $200,000 of the $500,000 legal fees cost for the first two of five retainers. We are now excruciatingly close to the halfway point. Thank you for making this extraordinary achievement.
The third retainer is due just after the difficult holidays season and savings are depleted. DONATE ANY AMOUNT by PayPal, cheque, or cash.
— A number below $50k by Christmas would be nice…
[Thanks to today's three donors from Central Canada, including one who provided a donation in memory of her grandmother, and a very generous repeat donor from the United States.]
—@Foo would “…like to see more emphasis on getting rid of CBT (citizenship-based taxation) than FATCA”. @Samuel Adams “cannot understand why Bopp isn’t going after CBT.” @ShadowRaider says “Is no one interested in challenging the root of the problem, CBT?”
Yet others feel strongly that Canadians should NOT involve themselves in changing bad U.S. laws and should focus only on the Canada FATCA-IGA legislation:
We all know that FATCA and the Canada-US FATCA extorted “agreement” do NOT equal citizenship-based taxation (CBT).
FATCA MUST be killed because it has taken away Canada’s sovereignty. For this reason we have no choice but to pursue this.
Killing FATCA will not (most likely) kill CBT — but we believe that the death of the Canada-U.S. FATCA IGA, one of the CBT enforcers, will wound the CBT beast and wake up more members of Congress to the immorality of CBT. This IS a good first step.
The preliminary discussions I have had with U.S. attorneys, who are on our side, tell me that a U.S. Constitutional CBT challenge will be “difficult” and very expensive. @ShadowRaider however has found an attorney who is interested. Beyond expression of interest there will need to be an equal effort to find continuing funds for an expensive lawsuit in the United States. Who will provide the resources and who will take on this task?
While a CBT lawsuit is being sorted out, my own recommendation, that many will not like, is for those who want to kill the U.S. CBT law to flood Republicans Overseas (a “lobby” group) with letters and emails explaining simply WHAT you want (legislation introduced to kill ALL of CBT) and WHEN you want it (next two years max if you want my vote in 2016).
@Foo uses these words:
“Congratulations, Solomon [Yue of Republicans Overseas}, you turned a lifelong Democratic voter, me, into a Republican voter last election, based solely on the issue of RBT.
If you want my vote in 2016, get RBT enacted by then. Don’t waste your time on FATCA, GATCA, US immigration policy or other domestic issues. (I don’t care about US immigration policy — I care only about US emigration policy.)
Focus all your efforts on getting RBT passed before 2016. If that doesn’t happen, don’t count on me voting for anybody at all.” What do you say?
… I do hope Solomon Yue is reading this, so that the stakes, and direction to take, are clear.”
ADCS-ADSC, consisting of just a handful of people but a lot of supporters, does not equal only a FATCA IGA lawsuit.
We have a broad mandate, know what we want, and just to be clear we will not rest until FATCA, CBT, and (as @George emphasizes) the laws that prevent U.S. citizens from renouncing freely are repealed.
Because we don’t have the money to do everything all at once some of our approaches will have to be creative.
NE LAISSONS PAS NOTRE ADVERSAIRE GAGNER. February 1 is coming very soon.
I’m dreaming of a strong Canada
Just like the one I used to know
Where sovereignty glistens
And MPs listen
To hear us say “Tell FATCA No”
I’m dreaming of a strong Canada
With every letter I write
May your days be merry and bright
And may our FATCA lawsuit defend all our rights!
Merry Christmas from Blaze. Please donate for a strong Canada.
Wondering outllines why The Canadian anti FATCA lawsuit is the lawsuit to support.
The anti-FATCA lawsuit worth funding now is the Canadian claim advanced by Alliance for Defense of Canadian Sovereignty (ADCS). Here’s why:
– This is the only actual statement of claim against a FATCA IGA in the world. It has been duly filed in a Canadian Federal Court by expert counsel. It will advance.
– ADCS have retained Canada’s top Constitutional litigator and the resources of a major law firm.
– the Directors of ADCS are totally transparent; they are publicly known, and collectively have made numerous public statements and appearances in the press, on broadcast television, at public meetings, and in front of the Finance Committee. ADCS is also a properly incorporated non-profit corporation.
– the plaintiffs are publicly known and represent the most egregious examples of being harmed by FATCA due to incidental US birthplace.
– the suit has already been funded donations of almost $250K. So future donations are building on a foundation of strength.
– the ADCS suit is already being followed by the media, and we can expect a surge of publicity as the case moves forward.
– Canada is the battleground state for very concept of FATCA IGA’s. That is because of the vast number of Canadians who will be harmed by FATCA. Also, Canada is probably the world’s leader in so-called “illicit undeclared offshore accounts held by US-persons” – as defined by FATCA. Expect far more blowback, anger and awareness as Canadian banks and financial institutions roll out their FATCA programs.
– The success of the Canadian lawsuit against FATCA will enhance the credibility and possibility of success of the Bopp suit in the US.
– Finally, the US Republicans have access to Political Action Committee funding that Canadians can only dream of. So suggest that Canadian dollars focus on Canada’s homefront, to win in a Canadian court. Funding the entire Canadian AND US anti-FATCA suits is a rounding error for the Koch brothers’ various political action committees – if anyone has their contact info, maybe reach out to make the ask
The timing is fortuitous as factors align in a perfect storm: Canadian lawsuit in Vancouver Federal Court + Harper Cons launch “do-or-die” election bid + Republican majority takes over Congress + increasing anger in Canada over “Buy American” laws + IRS hobbled with significant budget cuts (at the same time they must start to actively process and reciprocate FOR THE FIRST TIME with the rest of world’s FATCA input – much of which will likely be garbage data).
The warning: lawsuits move in slow motion – there are bursts of dramatic activity with months of waiting in-between. It is not like a labor strike, election or similar dramatic public action. A high court can take many months to issue a decision.
Over at ADCS, John Richardson thanks Wondering. So do I.
If you have not yet donated, Please Do So NOW at at stopfatca.ca for all of the above reasons. Plus, it`s just simply the right thing to do.
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When the committee was studying the matter, the department wasn’t able to provide us with the costs of the agreement, for either the agency or the financial institutions. Do you now have that information, from the moment when the funding for implementation is released?
Here’s the answer from CRA:
The costs that we are working with for our ability to implement the obligations that we have to administer this agreement is funding of, I believe, $15.7 million or $15.8 million, which has been allocated to the CRA to implement this over these next few years.
Those costs are principally intended to support the costs of implementing a new electronic form for mandatory filing for financial institutions to be able to file their obligations to us, a database in which we would be able to receive and store that information, and the tools to give us the ability to select files from that database for subsequent transmission electronically to the Internal Revenue Service in order to comply with those obligations.
So there you have it folks. Over $15 million of our tax dollars to violate our fundamental rights as Canadians for foreign government demands. (Thanks to Badger for this great find and for sending it to me and the Board of ADCS.)
That, of course, does not include the $750 million that Canadian banks say FATCA is costing them.
Nor does it include the money the government will spend of our tax dollars fighting us in court while we struggle to raise the needed money for our lawsuit.
UPDATE: Since I posted, EmBee pointed out the folllowing;
Hope I’m not upsetting this apple cart but if you read further into the transcript of that meeting you find this:
Mr. Mike Allen (Tobique—Mactaquac, CPC):
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to our witnesses for being here.
I want to follow up with a few questions with respect to the intergovernmental agreement and FATCA.
I think, Mr. Huppé, you talked about $2.4 million to implement the intergovernmental agreement with the U.S.
Then, Mr. Stewart, you talked about $15 million allocated over the next few years to enable the implementation of FATCA.
Just how do the $2.4 million and the $15 million work in the estimates?
Mr. Roch Huppé:
In the estimates process, the $2.4 million is what we’re seeking to bring in for 2014-15 expenses related to this. So yes, it’s included in that $15 million.
Mr. Mike Allen:
How many years do you figure it’s going to take to round this out? Will it be five years before you meet all the objectives?
Mr. Rick Stewart:
I have the number of years.
Let me clarify. If I said $15 million, I believe I misspoke. If I might be permitted to correct myself, it’s $5.8 million over the period 2014-15 to 2018-19.
Mr. Rick Stewart:
The bulk of those resource requirements are in 2014-15, because we’re setting up the front-end system to be able to receive and transmit the information. Then there are some smaller amounts on an ongoing basis in those outer years to manage the ongoing vetting and assure ourselves that the information is of good quality.
Whether it is $15 million or whether it is $5 million, it is still OUR tax dollars being spent to violate our rights. This also does not provide any information on what will be required in staff resources which could be significant.